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Post by Old Techo on Jun 30, 2019 13:19:29 GMT 10
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Post by Frank and Brenda on Jun 30, 2019 20:09:46 GMT 10
As of tomorrow SA's fine for touching a mobile phone while driving goes from $380 to $580, the government is going to look closely at Qld and see if the $1000 fine has an impact on the number of people using the phone then they'll implement it as well The cynical me thinks they'll leave it as is to get more fines, but that's another rant!
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Post by Mick Themungrel on Jun 30, 2019 20:44:25 GMT 10
Bloody good thing I reckon. Might and I stress might stop some of the idiots.
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Post by A'van on Jun 30, 2019 21:38:45 GMT 10
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Post by ancientmariner on Jul 1, 2019 17:42:18 GMT 10
It is so expensive here in Qld because we need the money
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 21:53:50 GMT 10
Bloody good thing I reckon. Might and I stress might stop some of the idiots. I don't know if it will stop them Mick. I reckon the only way to get the message through (pun intended) is instant cancellation of licence. Hitting offenders in the wallet wont stop the serial offenders, they don't pay the fines and keep on offending. Cancel their licence and if they are caught driving, impound the vehicle for a minimum of 1 month. Jeff
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Post by Muzz On Line on Jul 3, 2019 22:06:38 GMT 10
I have to agree Jeff, although these days they just don't care and will drive anyway. Take the car away and as soon as they get it back, no change to their habits.
Surely these registration plate readers on the police cars must be throwing up lots of unregistered cars!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 6:07:30 GMT 10
Maybe vehicles need some sort of electronic blocking device installed that renders the mobile phone useless whilst the ignition is on. I don't think it would be beyond the expertise of both the automotive manufacturers and also the after market parts & accessories industry to develop such a device.
Jeff
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Post by nsgnomad on Jul 4, 2019 20:23:27 GMT 10
Maybe vehicles need some sort of electronic blocking device installed that renders the mobile phone useless whilst the ignition is on. I don't think it would be beyond the expertise of both the automotive manufacturers and also the after market parts & accessories industry to develop such a device. Jeff Yes, but it would take years for it to filter through new cars to be in common use, and as far as aftermarket devices, what would be the incentive to fit it? Probably the only ones to fit it would be those who recognise the dangers already and don't use phones while driving without hands free device.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 6:26:19 GMT 10
The best incentive would be if you don't have one fitted, the vehicle is deemed unroadworthy. Such a devise if mass produced would more than likely be inexpensive to purchase and fit. Sure, there will be those opposed to such a devise based on their sense of entitlement to do whatever they please, but if it was made mandatory, they don't have a choice in the matter.
I can remember the cries of outrage from a lot of drivers when seatbelts became mandatory back in the 70's - it didn't take too long for the general public to accept that they were a good thing, they helped to save lives. Anything that helps to save lives is a good thing and a device that could help to prevent an accident has to be a better thing.
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Post by dieseltojo on Jul 6, 2019 8:45:13 GMT 10
I have read that two folks from different states were booked because the passenger had an open computer or a tablet that the driver could see. Still probably a distraction.
It was a common cabbie trap to see them with a tv on the dash once. Also some truckies we booked for it. That is now hopefully quashed and they have seen that is wrong to watch tv and drive.
Interestingly a cyclist in England was riding on the road when a lady walked out in front of him with her phone totally engrossed. Last thing, the bike swerved and the lady then jumped back into his path. Both knocked out and hurt.
The lady took the cyclist to court and the cyclist lost a $100,000. court case. Seems that the Australian law of causing an obstruction doesn't apply over there.
It seems a ped is not to be hit and even if they are not paying attention the rider- driver is at fault. You have to ride-drive to the circumstances.
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Post by Frank and Brenda on Jul 6, 2019 10:28:10 GMT 10
It bothers me that here in SA there are ads warning drivers to look out for pedestrians "before they take one out" This is leaving the future open for pedestrians sueing drivers for not looking out and hitting them It'll happen!
Too many pedestrians are walking around with their heads buried in their phones When you're walking along take note of how many you have to avoid walking into because THEY are not looking where they are going
They are the ones looking at their phone while driving, I'll bet
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Post by jock on Jul 6, 2019 14:17:57 GMT 10
I know some will get a bit over excited about this but, taking aside the perceived aid to safety that some may lay claim to,..can anyone tell me why conversations on two way radios is not as much a distraction as talking on a mobile phone?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 15:44:47 GMT 10
I've often wondered the same thing Jock and the difference seems to be not so much in the conversation, but the actions required to be able to carry out the conversation. Generally, using a radio microphone does not require the same inattention used to make or receive a phone call. I can grab my radio mic without taking my eyes off the road, not so with the phone. If the act of talking was the problem then they would also have to make talking to fellow passengers illegal.
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Post by Frank and Brenda on Jul 6, 2019 15:49:46 GMT 10
That why dialing a phone number from your radio or when your phone is in an approved holder (which doesn't require you to take your eyes off the field ov view of the road) is not illegal Or using a headset with voice command
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