jdog
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Location: NW Tasmania
Tow/Motorhome: Landcruiser 200 series
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Post by jdog on Aug 30, 2019 19:53:30 GMT 10
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Post by jr on Aug 30, 2019 23:38:40 GMT 10
Interesting but,
$200.00 or $1900.00 and to buy a replacement diesel pump for the German brands is about $400.00 which is two complete Chinese heaters. I carry a spare Chinese pump, glow pin and wire strainer that fits around the glow pin. Total cost $45.00, now if I was to buy genuine parts for my heater I would be up for fuel pump $400.00, glow pin $$300.00 and one strainer $30.00, total $730.00.
The Chinese heater carbon problems I expect is the fact that the 5000watt Chinese heater is just to powerful for many vans so the heater is running at a very low output so fuel air ratio is not correct.
My Eberspatcher D2 which is rated at 2200watts often runs at minimum even when outside temperatures are close to zero so a 5000watt heater would basically be just to big for the the job at hand.
I believe the 5000watt Chinese heater is a copy of the Eberspatcher 4000watt heater so the Chinese heater would be struggling to manage 5000watts.
By the way did a service on my 10 year old heater this year for the first time almost no soot.
JR
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Post by Frank and Brenda on Aug 31, 2019 8:48:02 GMT 10
I did a recent trip with some friends and 4 had thre Chinese diesel heaters
Some had problems with stuff supplied but some overcame it and warned the others of it
None had trouble with them where as my $1100 has heater kept falling (poor fresh air circulation) now fixed
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Post by dieseltojo on Aug 31, 2019 8:52:16 GMT 10
Good report JR.
Yep I have seen the warnings on another forum and a comment was made that in surveys of customers that only 2% had problems with the Chinese heaters. That word survey is laughable, as who knows.....but most stick up for the Chinese heater it seems. It is getting to the point that a bloke ought to buy two of them at one purchase and there is the replacement if one has a problem.
My gas Eberspatcher gas is around ten years old and runs flawlessly. It has a good range for a small van. As you point out a diesel is better on high rather than low. I didn't put it together as regard a van size though, so that is a very good point.
Blokes used to ruin their large outboard motors just doing low trolling speeds for too many hours. There is definitely some thing in what you say as regards a running speed for efficiency.
I know my gas heat is not cheap to run but its auto cutting in and out is excellent. The range it does this is a little to long at two degrees, but on freezing nights running at say 10 degrees is it just fine. I have run it a few nights when it has been zero. Mind you a poptop loses heat a bit quicker. The cost of running the thing soon dissipates when you are cosy, compared to freezing....  |
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Post by GerryP on Aug 31, 2019 9:32:16 GMT 10
An interesting article, but with perhaps a bit of vested interest from someone who obviously sells and installs the dearer brands(?).
We have a Chinese unit and it works flawlessly. I do run it on high from time to time to burn off any possible carbon build up from idling for long periods.
I would suggest that most problems arise from installation issues such as incorrect fuel pump location/angle, fuel line routing, exhaust routing and low battery voltage at initial startup. When installed properly with a good power supply, they seem to work very well.
The biggest issue as I see it is the usual lack of good, clear, English installation instructions and good user operating instructions for the various controllers available.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 9:43:41 GMT 10
Good report JR.
Yep I have seen the warnings on another forum and a comment was made that in surveys of customers that only 2% had problems with the Chinese heaters. That word survey is laughable, as who knows.....but most stick up for the Chinese heater it seems. It is getting to the point that a bloke ought to buy two of them at one purchase and there is the replacement if one has a problem.
My gas Eberspatcher gas is around ten years old and runs flawlessly. It has a good range for a small van. As you point out a diesel is better on high rather than low. I didn't put it together as regard a van size though, so that is a very good point.
Blokes used to ruin their large outboard motors just doing low trolling speeds for too many hours. There is definitely some thing in what you say as regards a running speed for efficiency.
I know my gas heat is not cheap to run but its auto cutting in and out is excellent. The range it does this is a little to long at two degrees, but on freezing nights running at say 10 degrees is it just fine. I have run it a few nights when it has been zero. Mind you a poptop loses heat a bit quicker. The cost of running the thing soon dissipates when you are cosy, compared to freezing.... Paul, which model do you have? I'm looking at putting heating in my van before next winter and I'm yet undecided which way to go. |
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